tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22424144.post3096684425098279442..comments2023-11-02T04:18:45.711-07:00Comments on blogfish: Does the sustainable seafood movement rely on guilt? (blogfish poll)Mark Powellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08121566220326246265noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22424144.post-71854884778060876692008-02-19T20:16:00.000-08:002008-02-19T20:16:00.000-08:00I'm not a big fan of "just say no" to unsustainabl...I'm not a big fan of "just say no" to unsustainable seafood, or all seafood. It just doesn't do anything. To work, a boycott needs to punish the bad seafood and reward the good seafood, and it's too hard for consumers to do that on their own. <BR/><BR/>Not all shrimp are bad, some are certified as sustainable, and some are caught with traps that minimize bottom damage. Consumers have a hard Mark Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10333424116503463839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22424144.post-8992986350297345162008-02-19T14:32:00.000-08:002008-02-19T14:32:00.000-08:00As an oceanographer I feel like I should be settin...As an oceanographer I feel like I should be setting an example for others and therefore I have quit eating any seafood whatsoever. It has now been several years since I have had the pleasure of enjoying treats from the sea and that is ok because I believe in it. As far as guilt I don't think that people should feel guilty, I think that we should inform each other. Making a statement where someoneihadirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881428385460495791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22424144.post-29421268293697903332008-02-18T22:30:00.000-08:002008-02-18T22:30:00.000-08:00Mark, I actually ended up blogging about this beca...Mark, I actually ended up blogging about this because I had different examples.<BR/><BR/>One of the things is that I think we are talking about different levels of guilt and shame. I don't think "raking people over the coals" is productive. I do think "you're wrong" may be a starting point at times. <BR/><BR/>The type of shame I'm talking about is related to simple self awareness, and I'm Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02474434988848889088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22424144.post-49440225982312221592008-02-18T21:40:00.000-08:002008-02-18T21:40:00.000-08:00Dorid, you have a mistaken belief that everyone wi...Dorid, you have a mistaken belief that everyone with the same set of facts will agree on what is destructive and what is constructive. I fight to reduce fishing impacts on the ocean, but it's not true that fishing is only destructive. It's also constructive in building an economy. It's balancing act, and reasonable people can differ on where is the right balance. Things are not so simple or Mark Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10333424116503463839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22424144.post-71850316738103770062008-02-18T20:52:00.000-08:002008-02-18T20:52:00.000-08:00No, but knowing people who deliberately do things ...No, but knowing people who deliberately do things that are harmful without shame aren't quite humane.<BR/><BR/>It's not a case of it merely being something we don't like.... we're not guilting people out because they don't like the same TV shows or have the same musical taste. I'm saying that if people understand that what they're doing is destructive, well balanced people won't want to do it. Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02474434988848889088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22424144.post-81233723685897865772008-02-18T11:13:00.000-08:002008-02-18T11:13:00.000-08:00Looking down on others for caring too little? Sa...Looking down on others for caring too little? Saying others are emotionally unbalanced if they don't feel bad when they do something we don't like? This sounds like moral superiority, and I don't think it's a good posture for winning converts to a cause.Mark Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10333424116503463839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22424144.post-91842480560641529902008-02-18T11:04:00.000-08:002008-02-18T11:04:00.000-08:00I have a problem with this whole "guilt" thing whe...I have a problem with this whole "guilt" thing when it comes to ANY conservation effort. I don't feel guilty being told if I do something or eat something I'm adding to a problem. That's just facts. The destruction of our oceans (and other natural resources) is ugly, it's bad, and it could be lessened. That's just the truth. <BR/><BR/>Seems to me we go to far in protecting people from Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02474434988848889088noreply@blogger.com